Still on about that video

[moonlite_tryst]

After watching the lovely lads *points to icon* engaging in more intimate activities in this video, several of you have mentioned that fucking bareback is not a safe practice which got me thinking about how I write sex scenes.

I have never had Harry or Draco use a condom; I always rely on the good old protection spell. But, assuming wizards in the HP verse used such a thing, would a spell actually be able to protect against a sexually transmitted disease? And if it could, then wouldn't magic protect against all disease?

Are we, the writers that let the lads engage in bareback sex, even if it is fiction, being irresponsible to our readers? Should we be promoting safe sex and the use of condoms in both slash and het fic, especially the one night stands and rent boy/girl fics?

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[furiosity.livejournal.com]

Should we be promoting safe sex and the use of condoms in both slash and het fic, especially the one night stands and rent boy/girl fics?
While we're at it, should we also address the issues of racism, sexism, homophobia, ageism, disable-ism, anti-semitism, etc etc? Perhaps we might also have the characters floss regularly, eat balanced diets, eschew soft drinks and excess alcohol, and do Pilates. Also, in every story that features motor vehicles? Seat belts should be treated with special attention, because far more people die in car accidents each year than they do from STDs.

Oh my, what a slippery slope I've got there. >.>

I think that fiction writers -- particularly Harry Potter pornfic writers -- are not educators and thus not responsible to anyone for anything. I don't think it's possible to be "irresponsible" when you carry no responsibility in the first place.

[coffeejunkii.livejournal.com]

what if they used a spell that protects against stds? would you also not be interested in reading/writing that? personally, i really wish they'd feature more prominently in stories.

[coffeejunkii.livejournal.com]

hmm, i see. all those magical things actually make me want to read about the possibility of protection spells more--like, i'm curious to see how wizards/witches would work that out.

[moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com]

and the boys have babies after having ritualistic sex on the eve of the summer solstice. Do you honestly think I care if Hermione gets a case of the clap?

I wouldn't because I'm not really invested in her character, but I'd want to now how the lads dealt with it.

[moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com]

Yes, it was my original question. So far the majority verdict is no, we shouldn't be obligated to include safe sex practices.

[moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com]

there are some creative ways in which to apply said condom

My lif education is really lacking here. I'm doing my very best to imagine that.

[moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com]

but I know women who put it on with their mouths

Interesting. Definitely not a mood killer.

[moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com]

This method may yet crop up in a fic. I wonder what the other ways are, apart from the obvious.

[drgaellon]

OTOH, porn producers have no "responsibility" to their viewers either, but most porn producers today do NOT allow their actors to engage in penetrative anal sex without a condom. (I suppose one could argue that they DO have a responsibility to the actors...)

I suspect BoyBatter is an "amateur" site - those two boys were DEFINITELY fucking bare, and I don't know of any mainstream gay porn producer who allows that. (Unless it's being produced by a really small studio off the radar...)

[furiosity.livejournal.com]

I have about 1 gig of gay porn on my machine, and most of it's bareback. It's a kink, actually, as far as I can understand -- videos will advertise that they're "bareback" because people are apparently into that sort of thing. I don't know much about the porn industry, but I thought amateur porn is the term for when moneyed producers pay non-pornstars to fuck onscreen. At any rate, the bareback stuff is out there in very large quantities if that's your bag, and AIDS cases haven't shot up dramatically. It's fantasy, basically, just like fic. Adults should know better than to repeat what they see on their TV or on a page of fantasy porn, and if they don't, then frankly, I think they're too stupid to live.

And really, when fan fiction writers start getting paid as much as porn producers do for writing fictional porn, perhaps that's when it might be prudent for us to consider the vast multitudes of people (who don't know what a condom is?) that we're reaching with our NC-17 works.

[moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com]

That's definitely some slope you have there.

the characters floss regularly, eat balanced diets, eschew soft drinks and excess alcohol, and do Pilates

You mean they don't? *grins*

I can honestly say that it never occurs to me to write in condom use because a) the characters and situations are not real, b) the universe is magical so the good old protection spell takes care of any nasties when I include one.