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After watching the lovely lads *points to icon* engaging in more intimate activities in this video, several of you have mentioned that fucking bareback is not a safe practice which got me thinking about how I write sex scenes.

I have never had Harry or Draco use a condom; I always rely on the good old protection spell. But, assuming wizards in the HP verse used such a thing, would a spell actually be able to protect against a sexually transmitted disease? And if it could, then wouldn't magic protect against all disease?

Are we, the writers that let the lads engage in bareback sex, even if it is fiction, being irresponsible to our readers? Should we be promoting safe sex and the use of condoms in both slash and het fic, especially the one night stands and rent boy/girl fics?

Date: 2007-09-20 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenpan.livejournal.com
*chuckle* Yeah I've seen it, and even done a bit in non-magical rpg's, but faced with a real one? It's baffling.

Oh definitely. Yes, QaF was really good about it. Now, are we talking UK or US version here? it's been a while since I've seen either, but I do remember there was even a fight between the main when one said he wouldn't mind if the other didn't want to use one. Main (US-Brian(Stuart character)) yelled at him (Justin (nathan)) and gave him a really fierce lecture to never EVER do that EVER. etc. iirc.

Date: 2007-09-20 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com
I'm thinking of the US version. One of my friends very kindly sent me all 5 series. I was in heaven for weeks!

Date: 2007-09-20 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenpan.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that's the one I'm remembering. (hehe me too! I borrowed it from a friend to keep me busy during my bedriddenness) - Justin said to Brian that he wouldn't mind if he fucked him without a condom, and Brian absolutely went ape on him about "you NEver EVER EVER do this without a condom!!!" etc. I remember being really glad for that episode because despite the themes of aids and hiv rife through it, it was the fact that characters paused every time they had sex to grab and put on a condom that really drove home how important they'd be.

But on the other hand, in the magical world, it's easy to believe that perhaps (since it wasn't really a thing even in our world until, like, the eighties) that perhaps things like aids aren't known about there - and other std's aren't hugely rife either due to protection magics and slightly victorian stances (until the current generation, of course, because how else will harry and draco screw like bunnies?) ;) I dunno, I just see wizarding society as a little bit more conservative in some ways.

I remember reading a fic (and I wish I could remember who wrote it) where everyone in hogwarts had to go for aids testing because it'd finally reared its ugly head in the wizarding world, and they had no way to combat it because it wasn't something they really knew anything about. I think harry and draco went to it together, but I can't recall. And another one where draco had something due to relations he'd had with a muggle... so I know there ARE fic out there that deal with this sort of thing (hell I'm in the middle of one myself) but by and large as far as wizard-fic goes, it's not something you need to be as closely watching as, say, real people fics, or fics in fandoms that don't have magical solutions.

did that make any sense?

Date: 2007-09-20 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com
Yes, that makes sense.

And another one where draco had something due to relations he'd had with a muggle

[Unknown site tag] wrote that one. I remember it well.

Date: 2007-09-20 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenpan.livejournal.com
er, who? it unknown lj tagged you *sniffle* I'd love to read it again

Date: 2007-09-20 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonlite-tryst.livejournal.com
Ooops. I boobed on my coding. [livejournal.com profile] jamie2109 wrote it. Can't remember what it was called but it'll be in her memories or possibly on skyehawke.

Date: 2007-09-20 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravenpan.livejournal.com
Boobies! *cough*

Thanks much! :)

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